I swapped it out for the Shure Beta 58 and the ringing was much less but the mic sounded very harsh! On another note, I just tried the highly touted and hyped MIKTEK PM9 against my lovely Beyerdynamic TG V70d, and shipped it (the PM9) back very quickly. It is hard to beat the sound of a 58. I'm sure I'm going to get crucified for this: I find Beta 58s to be shrill. The sensitivity on the M80 is slightly higher than on the M81, 1.4 versus 1.0 mV/pa.The M80 is rated at 300 ohms, just 50 ohms more than the M81.Both of those are low for this kind of mic, so keep that in mind when connecting them to an input so there’s no loss of signal strength. Hey there! The sm58 needs a lot of gain for today standards. If I had to just use two mics I would probably pick the Sennheiser E945 and JZ-HH1 or E838 as one is a cardioid and the other is super cardioid. I've got four gigs this weekend to hopefully give it a good try out with a wide range of vocalists and venues. The Beyerdynamic TG V70d is the sleeper of all microphones worldwide hands down. The top end is very similar to the E935 but sounds a little thicker in the low mids. I also use the Sennheiser E838's as general workhorse mics and find them to be an absolute bargain in the UK (£45 from Maplin). Encountered a real bummer with my N/D767a's, they don't hold up to loud vocalists. I'm saying this out of the love for sound. Hey there! I only pull out the Beta58 if they want dual wedges and want it loud. Thanks. The speakers were in pretty much the same location and the same for the mic. I realize that Shure has the beta series with the neodymium magnet series and that is good. Live Uses Sennheiser e935 Dynamic Super-cardioid frequency response: I am sorry if I confused our readers and friends here. Life is very short to live it in a compromised way! I'd like to hear the Miktek PM9 and a couple of condensers such as the Rode S1 and the new AKG C7. I find the E945 is more forgiving than the EV n/d767a? Every voice is different and will respond slightly differently to each mic. My opinion on the sm58 was the same like yours some time ago. They have slightly different polar patterns but ultimately they are both still a cardioid type. The only strong difference here is that the response of the M80 has less low end, in fact the frequency chart shows that it starts rolling off at 200 Hz, whereas Shure has it a little above 100. Sure its going to have condenser detail but that condenser is a cheap piece of ****. This time it was with a soft rock band where the drummer used hotrods. And one more plus: what are those highly paid engineers doing? The SMs are decent microphones which are affordable and accessible to many sound people on a budget! For just gigging, if you don't own plain old 58's your setting yourself up for a harder day then you need. Telefunken M80 indeed seems to resemble the sound of the old trusty Shure SM58 to a high degree; they have similar curves and behave in the same way. I actually bought 2 of this german made hyper cardioid dynamic microphone. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. Process improvement is a great perpetual thing! And I like the cardioid of the sm58 - you can play with the mic. Quick update. The Tele M80 is also a rippa. The mic will be used for a variety of jobs - corporate, church and my own band. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. if you have the cash, try the Shure KSM9, use them all the time on national radio for live performances, never let me down. I will give another example! A church? A corporate gig? The size of it is perfect - nice round grill :D. i HATE shure SM58 and beta58. I would be asking myself why the Shure product sounds muddy in comparison to other mics and go from there! I don't care if all the magazines in the world call it the world standard. I am really liking the Sennheiser E945 myself. Plus, I don't think we are asking for much! doesnt the ATM710 have a at2020 piece of **** inside of it? When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Mic will be here on Friday and will be comparing it to Sennheiser E945, E935, E838, JZ HH1, Shure Beta 58, EV 767a and AKG D5. I had a gig at one of the notoriously challenging venues tonight and had a good chance to try out a few mics. I am a baritone and the md431 killed both mics: It cuts through the band. And I'm a retired government engineer now! Probably the most-used mics in my stage mics kit (after SM58s) and for a whole host of uses, from single over-the-shoulder kit mic, to podium/lectern, to piano, to choral solo spot, is my trio of Shure Beta87As. The Sennheiser E935 and E945 are great mics for the money. I've managed to find a dealer who accepts returns on mics which is great news as there are no dealers within a few 100 miles that sell the mics I'm interested in. A competent sound engineer can make any decent mic sound good. For a club? I found the ATM710 worked great last night as the band were using IEM's. Very solid, reliable workhorses. But I never really had any mic with to much handling noise - maybe with some Sm57 clone. They have been gigged in all kinds of conditions, indoors, outdoors, tossed around, loaned out, etc. I already shipped back a KMS 104 for sounding thin and dull for my voice. I would venture to revamp or create the new generation microphone SM series. I don't love it because it sounds dull with a bad mixer but I can't accept your hate against it. Otherwise, I try to avoid it. I find it to be the most balanced sounding dynamic microphone I've tried. I guess the big question is: what will the mic be used for? And that's what I like about the PM9: it has clarity without being taxing on the ears.