Thanks for that feedback on the bundle, guys. Are you using this? Hi, I’m looking for an alternative to the Waves Vocal Rider. Are there any other options I’ve missed? The key for me is each stage of compression is only doing a little bit of work unless occasionally I smash a rock vocal at the mix stage. VocRider is a freeware vocal rider VST plugin developed by Terry West, providing smooth leveling of vocal tracks in relation to the backing tracks and the rest of the mix. The word interapplication sounds like it might be heading in the wrong direction though. I’ve had a quick look and found products by Melda M-AutoVolume and Hornet Autogain PromkII. WA stuff is fine - and a bargain on sale. Hey there! sponsored Doing vocal rides and writing automation is one of the key finishing touches of a mix, in which the mixer uses his or her ear and artistry to keep the vocal right in the sweet spot through the whole song. They have this bundle witch is only $10 so I’m probably going to get it but I hate having so many plugs I don’t use so just wondering if you like the out law and have anything else from them you like. From a quick search I found this in a youtube comment: "You have to use IAC. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. That being said I've yet to find a gain rider that does as good as my automations. The plugin was built on a concept similar to the vocal riding workflow in Cubase which was described in Sound On Sound magazine ( here’s the actual article if you want to take a look), except that Terry West’s latest freeware … Purchase FL Studio Templates: https://sellfy.com/faraitheproducerNeed songs mixed? Not sure if it's as good for vocals or whatever, but Outlaw by WA Production gain rider is $8 at pluginboutique right now (I didn't have such a tool before so I just went ahead at that price and got it). Thanks And if so, what are your thoughts? https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/gainrider2.html, https://www.tb-software.com/TBProAudio/dynaride.html. Then, Vocal Rider compensates for all deviations from the target, intelligently raising or lowering the vocal gain, instantly. 5 FREE VST's similar to Waves Plugins (For Vocals) - YouTube : https://faraitheproducer.wordpress.com/mixing-prod/Custom FL Studio Templates: https://faraitheproducer.wordpress.com/fl-studio-templates/Download Links to VST's:Logic Channel: http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?plugin=Logic_Channel\u0026id=2718ANTRESS Modern Plugins:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCHVhh_OjJwChannel 4: http://www.airwindows.com/channel4/DO NOT CLICK LINK (SECRET LINK): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNEi4beYfo91K6dqfTAdNYA?sub_confirmation=1 I don't use outlaw too much so I'm not sure how transparent it is, say, on a vocal solo. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. And unlike compression, Vocal Rider adds absolutely no coloring to the vocal track. All you need to do is set the target range of the vocal level in relation to the rest of the mix. Hi I was just wondering have you purchased anything else from wa productions. I've got some of the plugins already, and I'd say if you don't have any of them it's a good deal. Routing should be the same as for InstaChord, Scaler, or Cthulu, if you can find any info on those. I have waves, hornet, and the melda one, and I use exclusively the melda one. I'll be buying a second copy of outlaw I suspect as I go to get Instascale for $10 - plus other stuff I may dispose of if they're transferable. Has to be enabled in DP Setup > Interapplication MIDI and in Audio Midi setup". The Waves Vocal Rider plugin could be the posterchild of “Cheating” plugins. If you tend to do a lot of vocal heavy production, writing level rides can be a time … It doesn't have "mojo" so think of them more like a good DAW tool. Waves Vocal Rider. TBProaudio also has a gain rider. You saved me starting a thread just to ask what folks think of that bundle, STS. Tracking with a Retro Sta Level (which is basically an analogue vocal rider and colour box) then using a bit of Waves Vocal Rider > UAD LA2A (or CL1B) makes for a very smooth professional sounding vocal. Just a couple more reasonably priced options. What would you recommend for best quality of results?